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POSTED BY: MikeD_TKD on Mar 2, 2008
MARTIAL ART OR SPORT ??
when we fight in our hall we use about 40%
hand and 60% foot techniques..we are taught to throw multiple combos of
hands and feet..we dont go to competitions very often so the way we
fight is a little more street savy.. we learn to use alot of elbows and
knees, but not in sparring..we dont use hogus, but do thousands of
crunches to build up good abs..now about the combos--i like to start
with a left thrust kick followed by a quick left and right hand
technique to the head, ending with a round house or spinning back
kick..now i know that some tkd is taught with mostly 45 kicks and no
punching, or sparring with your hands down ( some competition )..what i
want to know is where is the line drawn between tkd being more of a
sport or more of a martial art..i am NOT trying to put down anyones
style of tkd and i dont want this to turn into a bashing..i just would
like to hear thoughts from our tkd community...





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POSTED BY: Danni on Mar 18, 2008
in my opinion, the line between art and sport is drawn when rules are added.  no hand techniques to the head, no sweeps, etc. 




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POSTED BY: bluewavetkd on Mar 26, 2008

Sparring with Hands to the
head and no Hogus is no different in terms of preparing you for the street then
Olympic Style sparring is.  How much wrestling do you allow? eye
gouges, groin/knee kicks?  Sparring with rules is sparring with rules
no matter what the rules are.

A Hogu is used to allow full
contact kicks and continuous motion If anything the Hogu encourages practitioners to kick harder by defatult - its a sport, the safety equipment
is designed to enhance the way the sport is played.  As an Olympic TKD
player, you are at no more of a disadvantage in the street, then a
boxer or wrestler.

The primary benefits of any sparrng (with
rules) in terms of street self defense is the ability to control
distance, and execute an effective strike.  Mentally, you are better
prepared then some one with no martial arts experience only because you
are used to some one  trying to hit you, and may have less of a deer in the headlights reaction.

We are an Olympic Style
TKD school - and have a well rounded curriculum (like most schools)
including a range of Self Defense Techniques (chokes, grabs, Hay makers
etc.) One Steps - for applying techniques to targets not included in
sparring, and a new system we have been using for about 3 years called
PDR, by Tony Blauer, you can learn more here:
http://www.tonyblauer.com

We have seminars on this system a couple of times a year and its extermely realistic and effetive.

My last point - Martial Art - Traditionally IS SPORT!

Judo,
Sumo, Tae Kyon etc.  During the birth of Taekwondo (post Japanese
occupation), one of the primary goals was to create a Global Sport. 

I wrote a guest blog post on this subject if you are interested.  Its not the exact subject, but similar points.

Great discussion - thanks for starting it up! 

Gordon

 

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POSTED BY: Maoriboy on Mar 26, 2008

I see it as both.

Sport is based on a set of rules and competition against an opponent i.e tournaments.

Martial Art is a way of life an individual thirst or drive that one has to better themselves as a practitioner and as a person. Passing on knowledge to help better the lives of others.

I see myself as enjoying both sides when I first started as many teens I did it purly for the competition and fighting (SPORT) but as years went on and my knowledge of the art grew I could appreciate the values and moral culture that TKD has and hae incorporated some of those aspects in my own life.


 


Thus I believe in makng me a better person because of it.





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POSTED BY: MikeD_TKD on Mar 26, 2008

bluewavetkd wrote:

and a new system we have been using for about 3 years called
PDR, by Tony Blauer, you can learn more here:
http://www.tonyblauer.com

We have seminars on this system a couple of times a year and its extermely realistic and effetive.

checked out the website..very cool, very serious stuff....and i always love your forum replys, you are very informed and help keep my mind open to all aspects of tkd..thanks





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POSTED BY: bluewavetkd on Mar 27, 2008
Thanks Mike.  Great Forum thread - a lot ot discuss here, lots of points of view!
gw
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POSTED BY: tkd_princess on May 13, 2008
A martial art is a way of life. A sport determines a winner and a loser, a martial artist wins at life because they always do their best, I believe it's a sport training wise, but we don't have winners and losers :)




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