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POSTED BY: Chief_Master on 10/29/2008 04:01:54


My signs and advertisements do not use the term "Karate," and I politely correct and inform the public, students, parents, and the media when the make the common mistake of confusing the two.  Although I have Black Belt rank in a few Japanese and Chinese systems, including Karate, my major is Taekwondo, and that is what I teach.

I see similarities in all physical combative systems, from wrestling and boxing, to Karate, Kung Fu and Taekwondo.  I also see similarities in many religions  schools of philosophy, scientific research, and artistic expressions in a variety of mediums.  Nature provides a common ground, and the human experience provides distinct perspectives, motives, and personal preferences.

I do not believe that Taekwondo came from Karate.  I can not analyze the nature of Taekwondo, nor describe its origins based solely on technique, nor on forms (Poomsae/Kata).  I call what I do Taekwondo, because I study and teach something that is unique to the Korean culture, and national history, and "Taekwondo" is what they chose to call it upon the suggestion of General Choi Hong Hi.

The Chung Do Kwan that I teach is one of the many sources that bonded together to manifest into the modern Korean Martial Art which we call Taekwondo, yet the founder of Chung Do Kwan, GM Won Kuk Lee, was teaching a system which differed from the Karate that he had learned from Gitchen Funakoshi.  Although the Chung Do Kwan, like many of the Kwans, eventually embraced and accepted the use of the term Taekwondo, they did not change to mold their system of teaching after General Choi since others were older, higher rank, and senior to Choi.  The Karate influence in these people's lives is evident, and the borrowing of forms practice as a framework for practicing "Taekwondo technique" post WWII is obvious, and absolute. However, Taekwondo became the melting pot of all of Korea's ancient fighting tactics, philosophies, strategy, and cultural identity that did not exist outside of Korea.

My definition of a "Martial Art" goes beyond the modern over-simplification of any, and all combative fighting skills.  I only apply the term to Self Defense oriented tactics that are based in advanced scientific principles, and coupled with a life altering education of enlightened philosophy, with high moral and ethical principles.  Karate and Taekwondo fall under the same heading of "Martial Art," when taught correctly, but differ in technical applications, fight strategy, development of power, and deep rooted philosophies originating in two different countries.

Not necessarily the "right" answer, but my answer.

Chief Master Darwin J. Eisenhart

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POSTED BY: CelticTiger on 10/29/2008 09:19:36


Thank you, Sir! 

No worries about a right or wrong answer: I was more interested in why people think that it is or isn't a subset of karate. 

I appreciate the response!

Daniel





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POSTED BY: tkdeddy on 11/02/2008 14:40:39


Our school has does no have TKD nor karate on the door.  In fact, there is nothing on the door.  The only marking is a sign on the wire fence outside letting people know how to sign up for lessons.  I do not consider TKD to be a part of karate, but I acknowledge the TKD may have flowed from karate.  TKD evovled on its own path and now is different.

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POSTED BY: Anna on 11/03/2008 15:12:08


I know very little about other types or sects or versions of martial arts, But, I think that karate is merely a term that has become, in the US, the general name for martial arts. Sometimes I tell my friends "oh, I have taekwondo tonight" and they'll say "Whats that?" And Ill clarify "Karate." and then they'll understand.

However, in my own opinion, karate and tkd are two different things.





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POSTED BY: Jinxi on 11/04/2008 04:24:25


I know I've already had my two penn'orth here but there seems to be a trend emerging about a widescale confusion between the two that definitely doesn't exist in the UK.

Here, if I say I do taekwondo, most people know it's a martial art. If they ask what it is, I tell them it's a martial art based around kicking and they get that.

The only person I know who confuses taekwondo with karate is my mum. My sister practiced karate for years so when she asks about it she gets the wrong name then corrects herself like she does when calling me first one sister's name, then the other, then mine!





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POSTED BY: kickin_yellow on 11/04/2008 15:34:29


their is no style only art .... lol yes in the technique very different lots of difference but still the same ... its only different names ... different but stands for the same thing 

take the masters look on what the différents is ...(he starts talking about it at 6:40) listent 


http://tkdspace.com/videos/id_297/title_Bruce-Lee-Interview-Part-1/





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POSTED BY: TK-D on 11/11/2008 22:18:56



KickChick wrote:
And because I believe Karate is about 60% hand technique and 40% foot while TKD may be about 70% foot and 30% hand (of course dependent on the school & style).

Gen Choi states that TK-D has 1/3 feet & 2/3 hands. So it is a common mis-conception that TK-D is more feet than hands. I think that this is fueled by the fact that the Koreans introduced flashy high kicks & jumping kicks, maybe in an attempt to be different from karate. It also helped them make a connection to taekkyon so it appeared to be more Korean. Also the WTF tournament rules promote kicking which developed new kicks & more efficent kicking, again to be different from karate. Many moons ago my school did advertise korean karate (tae kwon do)

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POSTED BY: EarlWeiss on 11/17/2008 14:35:19


If the sign on the Door says "Taekwon-Do School" and next to it there is wording saying "Karate is for people who can't do Taekwon-Do" does that count as saying "Karate" on the door?

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