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POSTED BY: Old_Guy on 08/16/2008 23:09:10


My son is testing for his 3rd in Oct.  Afterwards, I am thinking of pulling him out of TKD and having him study Hapkido or Gumdo for the next couple of years, to round out his training and keep it interesting.  He says that he enjoys doing TKD but he isn't really learning anything new and that it is getting boring to him but he's a little aprehensive about anything unfamiliar.  Due to his school work, I can't justify him doing both so its one or the other.  Because I have come to value the opinion of so many on this site so ask yourselves, how would you advise your child.

BTW...It is going to be awfully strange walking on to the floor and him not being there after 6 yrs of training together.  It's a youth class so there's no Old Guy slots. 




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POSTED BY: Dick on 08/17/2008 02:27:25


My advice, show him change is as much an opportunity as it can be losing something and that change should always be met with some optimism. Then let him make his own decision. 

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POSTED BY: firemanandxmarine on 08/17/2008 02:49:22


ok this is my view. Id do both. He needs to learn to teach thats what some of the 3rd dan is about.philosophy.

(you can out grow your master) lord knows i did.  

3rd dan is high but you need to keep good with his current master. thats half of climbing in rank.

(kukkiwan 3rd dan or not)? if he kuk stay close to that master

i would defanthly start his cross traing. there may be a teacher close that will teach more weapons and stuff.  . you can attend weapon clinics. at local schools. give that kid a weapon and let him start learning by his self. i learned most of my stuff on my own. latter was corrected by masters. they help me faster because they had something to work with.

but find out if his teacher can give him more classes if he knows hapkido gum do etc..there is no way i could teach all i know in my class but after yelp lots of stuff i can teach. to tell the truth tkd is easy to teach compared to kung fu. so i can teach tae kwon do all day but i get pissed teaching kung fu after a few hrs.

hapkido is awesome but you need to talk to his master let him know after his test and award ceremony after...after....after.  then let the master know he may know some one thats a friend. 

friendly things id take my son if i did not know the following is- boxing...muay thai.  the stuff you learn in there is awesome. boxing is a must for any black belt.

would also start competing if has not already done a thing. jr Olympics is cool and you get to travel.   plus you meet up with people all over the us. that has your skill and you feed and learn from them. awesome!!! of he does wtf do itf. two different worlds. with both ways he will be beyond.

hapkido is no joke. lots of falls lots rolls lots of pain.  know your son going to another school my mean his reduction in rank at that said new school. he may be use to his school and find it hard to git into a new grove. 

3rd dan is a rank you need to look back at your self. start finding what you cant and can do.  there are only so many kicks and so many one steeps. so many hand techniques. you have to hang in there with you master.  3rd dan is not a two time a week thing more like a once a week thing a the dojang. 

let him explore his self. with out a master looking over his shoulder. see what he is good at. 

 





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POSTED BY: Dick on 08/17/2008 05:31:15



firemanandxmarine wrote:

let him explore his self. with out a master looking over his shoulder. see what he is good at.

Yes, learning decision making. 

 

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POSTED BY: Old_Guy on 08/17/2008 06:38:48



"rawr" wrote:

firemanandxmarine wrote:

let him explore his self. with out a master looking over his shoulder. see what he is good at.

Yes, learning decision making. 

 



Thanx guys, James has already done some cross training but it was always as a side to the TKD.  We did escrima, nunchuku, and currently train Muay Thai but as I said it was/is always a backseat to the TKD.  This would be the first time where something was going to replace his TKD training.  I wouldn't force him to stop, honestly I'll miss my partner in crime if he goes, but as both of you have suggested let him make that decision after he views some of the other arts.  I was talking it over with Coach Ruiz and he suggested a school out in Seoul called TMAS (Total Martial Arts School) they teach TKD, Hapkido, BJJ and weapons and supposedly give each equal time during the class.  That is another option.




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POSTED BY: firemanandxmarine on 08/17/2008 14:02:02


i located in a mma school. every one of the tkd bases students even me take care of it in the ring,  tae kwon do is home of the distance game.  home of the kicks.  but the hands or missing. boxing replaces that gap. now take muay thi low shin kicks fast hands. thiy kicks inner and outer. game point. now hapkido which includes wepons now the practitioner has no holes distance game..owned...punching owned by boxing,,,,,,take down sweeps owned by hapkido. lets not get in to pressures points. he picks up a broom sweetness is owned get broken schema sticks,  naw take that lil boy to a gymnastics school. a back flip aral he will be the lil man..but thats a lot of time. i think you still should keep him close tohis master once a mounth.




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POSTED BY: narcsarge on 08/18/2008 10:27:14



"rawr" wrote:

My advice, show him change is as much an opportunity as it can be losing something and that change should always be met with some optimism. Then let him make his own decision. 



Let TKD be his anchor and Hapkido, Muay Thai, BJJ his ports of call.  Cross training in other arts, and other schools, will help give him options.  As I am sure you exposed your son to various types of music, sports, and obviously cultures, exposing him to other Arts is just good parenting.  If he keeps up contact w/ his school and Master then I doubt he will have any issues returning to his club if that is what he decides. 




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POSTED BY: kalynn on 08/22/2008 20:33:10


Lots of good advice here.

I thinks it's important that he not become bored. Anyone can get bored by the time they reach 3rd dan but we all know kids struggle with it more than adults. If he feels that he's always learning something new, he'll stay enthusiastic. 





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POSTED BY: Old_Guy on 08/22/2008 21:39:21



kalynn wrote:

Lots of good advice here.

I thinks it's important that he not become bored. Anyone can get bored by the time they reach 3rd dan but we all know kids struggle with it more than adults. If he feels that he's always learning something new, he'll stay enthusiastic. 



Your're right tons of good advice and the fact that it can get boring running over the same drills week in and week out.  Keeping it fresh has never been GM Kim's strong suit probably because 90% of his student rotate out after a year and go to another assignment.  Playing to those 90% he builds them up enough to pass their test at Kukkiwon after a year and then within a month or two they get their BB, cert, and a plane ride back to the US.  Then we are right back to where we were, training the next bunch.  So James and I do a lot of teaching but we keep running over the same old real estate.  Personally, I still feel I have lots to work on, I could spend a lifetime just working roundhouses and spin hook kicks...but I'm not as good as my son.




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POSTED BY: kalynn on 08/23/2008 09:37:45


The fact that you could continue to work on the fundamentals and feel that there is still more to learn is part of the reason why a child cannot be a "black belt" until they turn 16.

There are a lot of life experiences we have to rack up to gain the patience and insight to be able to understand that even the basics can always be improved.

But even all that wonderful age and insight doesn't stop us from getting bored eventually too. 





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