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I never go 100 percent power when point sparring, we only do point sparring and it's lit contact. Usually in class I'm working on setting up combos or working of a certain technique. I've had students throw kidney punches when my back was turned and have had kicks to my face and throat (not fun)but I've never once thought about going 100 percent power. I do know that I can if I need to but it's not something we strive for in class (for sparring not self-defense).
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| POSTED BY: Old_Guy on 08/19/2008 00:17:19 |
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narcsarge wrote:
On occasion, I have run into the macho noob that feels he has to prove himself and go full bore.
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Obviously thats what we have here. Occasionally you get the student who wants to show how much he knows as opposed to learning anything. Thanx Sarge, and thanx for the advice on the other forum as well. We are going today and watch the Hapkido class workout. He already has a couple of friends that attend the class so that should make the transition a little easier if he chooses to go that way.
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Was that hands up and chin down, or the other way around?
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Good to hear. Keep us in formed on how things progress...
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Old enough to know better; Dumb enough to keep going!
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narcsarge wrote:
I never go "blow for blow, power for power" w/ inexperienced fighters. I am there to help the student learn and not to prove anything. This can be taught w/ defense as well as offense.
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Well put. I'm just begining, but get to spar up and down the belts. Up is fun, trying to catch a 20 year old or less black belt is humbling, as soon as you miss you are fodder. It is good for them as well for timing. With the higher belts that are 15-20 years younger, it is easy to intimidate them. I am loud, But what throws them most is talking to them. I always run my mouth in a positive way. for the younger belts, I am fodder and always encourage and coach as we go, start stop to land the combo. If they are getting a little heavy handed or footed(is that a word?) as sarge sez. a well placed block will make them think twice about the source of the pain. But then again i'm just an old guy acting like i'm 20. Hardest part is i laugh while sparring...
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If a student, or prospective student comes to me, (or even a black belt or high ranking black belt) and feeds me the line of bull, that the only way to try, is 'all out contact', I'll probably show them the door so fast, they'll think they got hit by an EF-5 tornado.
That kind of training method is ABSOLUTELY STUPID.
Boxers don't even train that way. My first sparring match in the boxing gym was a veritable pitty-pat affair, where the focus was on movement and using combinations, while keeping the guard sound and keeping your eyes on what was going on, WHILE keeping good balance.
If a pro boxer trained 'all out' and sparred 'all out'... by the time it came time for the big fight... he'd be medically disqualified because he'd probably have serious concussion issues that would need anywhere from 60 to 180 days to heal enough for him to pass the physical to even GET into the ring to HAVE his big fight.
Anyone, rank notwithstanding, who says you have to train full on contact, to train to fight, is delusional, and doesn't know a right hook from a fish hook. RUN, do not walk from these jokers... they'll get your brains scrambled on you... and you won't even learn how to battle properly in the meantime.
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Getting through life takes just a LITTLE bit of insanity!*g*
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| POSTED BY: Old_Guy on 08/23/2008 07:51:01 |
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ranger1100ky wrote:
If a student, or prospective student comes to me, (or even a black belt or high ranking black belt) and feeds me the line of bull, that the only way to try, is 'all out contact', I'll probably show them the door so fast, they'll think they got hit by an EF-5 tornado.
That kind of training method is ABSOLUTELY STUPID.
Boxers don't even train that way. My first sparring match in the boxing gym was a veritable pitty-pat affair, where the focus was on movement and using combinations, while keeping the guard sound and keeping your eyes on what was going on, WHILE keeping good balance.
If a pro boxer trained 'all out' and sparred 'all out'... by the time it came time for the big fight... he'd be medically disqualified because he'd probably have serious concussion issues that would need anywhere from 60 to 180 days to heal enough for him to pass the physical to even GET into the ring to HAVE his big fight.
Anyone, rank notwithstanding, who says you have to train full on contact, to train to fight, is delusional, and doesn't know a right hook from a fish hook. RUN, do not walk from these jokers... they'll get your brains scrambled on you... and you won't even learn how to battle properly in the meantime.
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Don't sugar coat it Ranger tell us how you feel, and that seems to be the general consensus. I honestly don't know where these folks get these ideas or where they trained that this was the norm. It'll be interesting to go back to class and see if he decided to stick around.
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Was that hands up and chin down, or the other way around?
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When we do WTF sparring, it is generally full contact with light contact to the head. If one or both of the participants is a relative novice, or if there is a substantial size and/or age difference, then one or both participants slows it down and lightens it up. Note: we always keep the head contact fairly light. For SD training, it varries depending upon both partners' level of ability and comfort, defaulting to the lower level partner's comfort level. My son and I go fairly hard and fast at eachother because we're both comfortable with the techniques and we're both of similar size and weight. On the other hand, when I am partnered with a yellow belt who's half my mass (I'm 6'4 and about 200 pounds), I keep it at a pace that is safe for both of us but that will still challenge them enough to help them get better. Daniel
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교사 Yidan kumdo, Ildan taekwondo
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