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Ok, I some of you post on other forums, having run into someone and martial art forums seem to have really knowledgable people speaking. But does anyone go on Yahoo Answers? I do mainly to help with cooking and the phlosophy debates but I've been looking in the Martial arts section lately and it's humorus to see what people are say about martial arts in general. You would swear that unless you are doing some grappling art or MMA training that everything else is dumb. Just curious about your opinioins on it.
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| POSTED BY: major3rd on 08/01/2008 09:15:41 |
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What really makes me giggle is how those guys post all this stuff and it just strikes me as each one of those people making propaganda about how cool each of them are. I don't know that I would call that community. It just seems like a bunch of people trying to sell their egos. It's the problem I have with most martial arts things and what keeps me quiet in mixed company about my interests.
Two of the concepts that have stuck with me that others have related where these.
1) Assume all new students coming through the door have some kind of emotional hurt that they are still wrestling with in life. That's going to be part of their training and be mindful of it.
2) In general, you will have a certain percentage of the people coming to study that will be unwilling to address these issues and will justify them with macho egotism and will act out accordingly.
While there are many facets of MMA that I like, they seem to fall short on the realization that study of martial arts can do a lot for character development and personal excellence. It seems beneath them. They'd rather pound on someone. Can we say suppressed urges?
I post on this place because it seems a bit more like curious and interested people typing away with some ideas - a bit more akin to a site on tennis or something. While I don't consider myself a sporty guy, I don't reject that part of what I study. This makes this site fun and the others just dull.
That's my take.
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| POSTED BY: doughboy on 08/01/2008 12:38:36 |
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when the mma just blew up in north america, i heard a lot of people saying that most of the street fights end up on the ground and if one style doesn't do ground fight, then that style is useless. and i thought, why would people end up on the ground?
i thought about it, and quite couldn't figure it out. i'd been in quite a few fights, and i almost never ended up on the ground, because i was good enough to finish the fight before i ended up on the ground. also, if i was to go to the ground, i was good enough to have a control of the fight, so that i would go to the ground on my own term - often me being on top of someone just pounding their faces in. i was on the receiving end of it few times, but it is the nature of the street fight that you punch someone before trying to secure their arms and legs and manipulate their joints. and i took in few shots to the face in order to get them off me and get back on my feet.
i think if one knows how to throw a punch and take a punch, then there's no need to go to the ground. ground fighting should be the back up of back up plan. if you do end up on the ground, try to throw few punches and try to get back up on your feet before you try an armbar.
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NEVER get on the ground in a street fight. people who pick a fight on the streets usually come in gangs [in Singapore that is]. IF YOU ARE ON THE FLOOR, YOU ARE DEAD. - well that's what the Krav Maga instructor said on Fight Quest - Israel anyway. I don't think anyone would doubt a miilitary martial art's ability on the streets since even the police in israel use it. -.-
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A lot of people don't understand that rulesets dictate strategy. They see UFC and think "wow, that's just how it goes!" It doesn't help that in the early days of UFC BJJ had a vested interest in selling UFC as the "real" thing. It's wishful thinking, but people need to figure out what they intend to train for before finding a teacher or style. Let's be honest, if you were interested in maximum effectiveness in self defense you'd carry a gun or a nonlethal like a taser or mace. Much lower training time requirements to be effective, greater effectiveness and range. So practical self defense can't be your only reason for training.
Some people are in it for health benefits, or a sense of community and belonging, or the allure of exotic culture. None of those require any proficiency in grappling, and that's fine, as long as the student understands and is realistic about the training s/he is getting. |
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Man...this whole MMA vs. Traditional Martial Arts debate can go on an on. But I agree with major3rd. There's just something missing from MMA that Traditional Martial Arts have retained such as philosophical life lessons and personal achievement. While I admit that it is fun to watch MMA, I still hold to my TKD roots in that I know that Martial Arts was never really about beating the crap out of the other guy. That's why I think MMA should more accurately named "Mixed Fighting Styles."
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| POSTED BY: kalynn on 08/14/2008 22:15:26 |
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Conartist wrote:
That's why I think MMA should more accurately named "Mixed Fighting Styles."
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I sooo agree with you on this. It actually makes me angry that it's called mixed martial arts. It's not martial arts at all.
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