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POSTED BY: TKDHermit on 07/25/2008 00:45:51


if the coach craacks a joke out of other students, we laugh. in sparring, we laugh if we get made a fool out of =.= LIKE MY FIRST TIME I COULDNT SEE COZ OF MY ASTIGMATISM i was laughing all over the place coz i was fighting like a half-blind. and my coach whacks ppl on the butt with a handmitt if they arent getting their stances properly or positions of moves correct.. [if shes not in a bad mood]. and she goes "UR SOLAR PLEXUS AT UR HEAD AH?!" . man this aint a military training camp =.= go KO ur instructor in a sparring match, draw a smiley face on his face while hes fainted n get outta there. XD




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POSTED BY: DaveSaunders on 07/25/2008 03:50:29


I've only just started tae Kwon Do however i have done it twice before in the past and a couple of my reasons for giving it up was probably because 1. I was young and reckless and 2. because i didnt find it fun, it was too strict. So strict that it felt like just another class at school.

However the lessons i now have are brilliant. My instructor makes you feel at ease and comfortable and there is always a joke being shared. Obviously when it comes to courtesy and concentrating on patterns etc i tend to focus more and so does the whole group. You are there to have fun at the end of the day as well as learning a unique set of skills. Whilst i agree that training should be disciplined on the other hand it shouldnt be made to make any student feel uncomfortable.

i think the student as an individual needs to exert their own discipline in order for them to truly learn the art and progress through its stages.




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POSTED BY: doughboy on 07/26/2008 18:40:20


even when i was in korea, where corporal punishment was very common in school setting, we still smiled and laughed.  even though we took tkd very seriously as we were in school tkd team, we still had tons of fun.  without little jokes here and there, i don't think we could have lasted all the years training like dogs. 

even during sparring these days, i'm goofing around.  whenever i get punched or kicked in the face, i tell others i totally blocked with my face.  when grappling, before i tap out, i threaten the other guy by placing my fingers on his nipples, about to give him the purple nurple.  i even started a sparring match at a tournament with karate kid's rubbish crane stance once. 




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POSTED BY: Chief_Master on 07/27/2008 03:22:39


For me, its as simple as, "follow the instructor's lead."  A good, trained, and insightful instructor understands Balance.  There must be just the right amount of entertainment, fun, smiling, and even a little laughter at the right time.  Here is the key - watch the instructor.  If the instructor is being serious, this is not the time to start giggling, or telling jokes.  As an instructor, I find occasional moments to inject a little humor, and levity, then back to focused training.  I do not permit students to decide it is time to crack a joke, talk in class, goof around, or just start laughing.  There are some drills, and more casual portions of the session where conversations about what you are working on occur, and some light humor will happen between students, but it is expected to be kept in perspective and under control.

I was trained with this method that my instructor set the tone, and we all enjoyed our training just fine!  If my instructor laughed, we laughed, otherwise we stayed focused.  Of course, this was mostly the rule for the hour of class.  We spent many hours training before and after classes where things were a bit more relaxed.  I believe that one of the skills I teach my students is how to control their actions and emotions - - be it sadness, depression, anger, or laughter.  Who has ever been in church, and thought of something funny while the entire congregation was quiet.  Fighting back a burst of laughter is not easy!

When I was in the Army, you didn't dare crack a smile, let alone laugh when the Drill Instructor is yelling commands in your face.  I credit my Taekwondo training for getting me through that, and many other tough situations in my life.  If my instructor wasn't strict enough to tell us not to laugh, or talk without being called upon, myself and many of my fellow students would never have learned the valuable discipline and self control that I now apply to other aspects of my Taekwondo training and the rest of my life.

I was in a High School play once, and during a full dress rehearsal, the lead male accidentally rose from the floor with his head under the dress of his leading lady.  We all burst out in laughter, and the director (drama teacher) rushed the edge of the stage from the audience, pounding it with her stick and shouting, "That's not funny!  That's not funny!"  I was thinking, "Yes it is!"  However, what she was telling us is to stay in character.  If you are going to perform a serious play as an actor, you have to avoid laughing, and should not break character in rehearsal, because you will then do it during a live performance.

My point is, there are many students who have little or no discipline in their life, like those in our inner-city troubled youth program in Benton Harbor, Michigan.  They need the discipline more than anything, but we do use some humor, fun and games.  A Taekwondo student should be able to control their emotions, and disguise their fatigue so their opponent does not know if they are angry, tired, frustrated, scared, or whatever.  I have had Korean Grandmasters in Korea and the U.S. tell me that a student (and instructor) should have a pleasant look on their face.  Not a sad, grumpy, mean or stern look, and not a constant grin (makes people think you are crazy!    A person should learn how to be laughing hysterically on the inside, yet keeping a straight face on the outside.

A Taekwondo class that is dull, boring, and no fun has to do with a lot more than whether you are laughing or not.  I have done many things that I was interested in, intrigued by, and loved doing, without ever laughing.

I think there is a time and place for everything.  An instructor should know when and how much laughter to encourage or allow in class, but I think it should remain the instructor's discretion.

I don't mean this as a lecture, as though I'm right.  This is just a lengthy explanation of how I do things, and why.  I am sure that other methods work as well! 

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POSTED BY: Jeff23 on 07/27/2008 09:56:18


Chief Master,

Wow, you definitely brought a great perspective to this situation. I really like your attitude and understand now. My instructor wasn't saying "Don't have fun" (he's definitely not that kind of guy), he was saying "Don't lose control of your emotions." This is an excellent point. Thank you.

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POSTED BY: DaveSaunders on 07/28/2008 01:46:41



doughboy wrote:
i even started a sparring match at a tournament with karate kid's rubbish crane stance once. 


LOL @ the crane stance. U legend. love it!




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POSTED BY: KickChick on 07/28/2008 07:33:19



Old_Guy wrote:
Especially when you're sparring it helps to keep you loose. I knew a guy that did Karate that would come at you with a big grin on his face. The whole time he was kicking your butt he's just grinning away. I ask him about it and he told me that at first it was a natural thing, later he found out that it rattled people or pissed them off which was to his favor as well so he did it all the time. I hated that guy .

 

Which is exactly why I grin from ear to ear when I spar. True, sparring is NOT a laughing matter and let me just say that I do take it seriously if I gave anyone here the impression that I did not.

I does rattle your opponent and it does work to your advantage at times.

 

One of my fav quotes is "A smile is a curve that can set a lot of things straight"

 

Exellent post ChiefMaster





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POSTED BY: Kicking4JC on 07/28/2008 10:35:27


My instructor encourages smiling.  He'll tell us to smile if it hurts, when stretching and if we aren't smiling then he knows we are not trying to go further, and he tends to fake stutter when people neglect to smile, so we can end up doing more pushups or so.  I tell them when he's not around like prior to class, fake it, if you have to.  But our whole idea of our school is a ministry and outreach.  We are all like a family.  There can be smiling and such, and discipline at the same time.  I now am seeing I do the same with my students, if they do not smile.




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POSTED BY: Baby_Huey on 07/28/2008 12:00:28


We do point sparring and sometimes, depending on who I'm against, my partner and I will try to make each other laugh with funny ready stances.  One time a kid I was going against did this high pitch cheerleader like kihap and funky jump going into the ready. I got him back with doing a power-ranger-like move(their morphing movements) and that got of few of the kids.  Yes I know sparring is serious but if I don't laugh and have fun with it I get a little to serious and kinda scare people. I am serious on the competition floor but the laugh helps create a barrier in my mind between class and competition.




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