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I was curious how many other dojangs really focus on speaking Korean and having students learn the Language. I've been studying Korean since starting in TKD. OVer time more and more Korean has been spoken in class with given commands. With the family class the commands are first given in Korean then English. The other night in the advance class everything was done in Korean, no English. Needless to say I screwed up a couple movements for warm ups but was able to pull through. Does anyone else have classes in all Korean? I love it just sometimes hard to understand with fast commands.
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mine's english except commands . fully korean no translations. so just have to memorize the 8 basic ones. Charyeot, Kyeongnye, Junbi, Sijak, Baro, Keuman, Swieoh, Dwiro dora. Theres somemore for sparring.
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I've never been in a school that leaned toward teaching everyone a new language with a martial art.
When you get right to it, it's highly impractical for 'most' people.
Some people would like it, without a doubt. But most people are NOT going to be going to Korea. So teaching them the language would be a lot of wasted effort.
I use the basic commands, and that's that. I don't try to teach all of the Korean technique terms for practical reasons.
What's important to me, is communication. I want to communicate with students and I want them to communicate with me. If we throw in too much of a language that neither they, nor I, can claim as one we're fluent in... we're bound to have communications breakdowns.
Communications breakdowns, are precursors to confusion.
Confusion can be a precursor to an accident.
And I have a pure, unadulterated, unmitigated, spellbinding, mind boggling and psychotic HATRED for accidents on my watch. I can't teach a student if they're in the ER, or home recovering from an injury. So I do everything I can to prevent them.
That includes using the language that I and my students are most familiar with, save for the must rudimentary commands that are used world wide in Taekwondo across virtually every organization.
If a student wants to learn MORE Korean, because it truely interests them... certainly I would encourage that and give them suggestions on how to go about it. I've picked up a few other basic terms not 'commonly' used in Taekwondo schools, for fun... but I don't use them often.
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| POSTED BY: Tryak on 06/13/2008 14:14:34 |
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It depends on the class level. In white/yellow belt level it is just Charyeot, Kyeongnye, Junbi, Sijak, Baro plus terminology like sabummin, dobok, dojang. Students also need to know the korean name of their tul for their belt chon ji, dan gun, etc. More advanced classes also count exercises in korean hana, dul, set, net..etc. If we go to tournaments the instructors brief us on the words that we have to know. I have books which have korean names for body parts and techniques but we don't use them in class.
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| POSTED BY: IcemanSK on 06/13/2008 14:54:01 |
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I keep a minimum of Korean in class for my students. Usually just commands. My big pet-peeve is with some American instructors who insist on teaching Korean to their students when they themselves have never heard the language from a native speaker. ugh! If you're gonna insist on Korean in class, make sure you pronounce it correctly. Otherwise, it makes you look like really don't know what you're doing. I always teach Korean terms like dobok & dee. I do get bent when my students call it a "gi."
My 1st instructor was a Korean man & taught mostly in English (except basic commands). We used to practically beg him to teach us conversational Korean.
I love learning Korean & learning terms & conversational things. But I don't think most folks (especially 10 year olds) want to learn a laguage in great detail.
my 2 cents.
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| POSTED BY: doughboy on 06/13/2008 15:03:12 |
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IcemanSK wrote:
I do get bent when my students call it a "gi."
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besides the basic stuff (attention, bow, salute to the flag, ready position, back to ready position, break, sparring, begin, and name of pattern), i don't really bother teaching them other korean terms. of course, when someone calls it a "gi" or "dojo" or "sensei", i do correct them. i do teach them korean terms for each kicks and techniques, but i don't really use those terms during class.
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| POSTED BY: IcemanSK on 06/13/2008 15:09:16 |
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doughboy wrote:
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IcemanSK wrote:
I do get bent when my students call it a "gi."
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besides the basic stuff (attention, bow, salute to the flag, ready position, back to ready position, break, sparring, begin, and name of pattern), i don't really bother teaching them other korean terms. of course, when someone calls it a "gi" or "dojo" or "sensei", i do correct them. i do teach them korean terms for each kicks and techniques, but i don't really use those terms during class.
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I forgot to say that I also bug my Korean friends about the correct Korean terms for things. Like doughboy here  |
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It's not like my class was sitting their and were discussing the presidental race in Korean. But all the commands were in Korean and that was the whole class, warm-ups, forms, sparring. It was tricky with warm-ups because we do kick combos and misunderstood the side kick from reverse kick. My school's Grandmaster Woo Jin Jung is from Korea, his english is heavily accented and the black belt test is mostly in Korean. I think that hearing the language gives a window into the culture. The art has a history and I think the language is a part of that history. I have been taught the meaning behind all the forms I have to know in both ITF and WTF so the language part seems natural progress to me. Being able to speak the language isn't really required until you are in the upper ranks, Brown and above. I have taken advantage to learn now. I've also studied French, Spanish, Italian, German, Loa and Sudanise (3 dialects out of the hundreds) French and Italian were classes Spaninsh and Loa was for my job as reporter since most of the community I use to live was Hispanic or South East Asian
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| POSTED BY: IcemanSK on 06/13/2008 15:46:47 |
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Baby_Huey wrote:
It's not like my class was sitting their and were discussing the presidental race in Korean. But all the commands were in Korean and that was the whole class, warm-ups, forms, sparring. It was tricky with warm-ups because we do kick combos and misunderstood the side kick from reverse kick. My school's Grandmaster Woo Jin Jung is from Korea, his english is heavily accented and the black belt test is mostly in Korean. I think that hearing the language gives a window into the culture. The art has a history and I think the language is a part of that history. I have been taught the meaning behind all the forms I have to know in both ITF and WTF so the language part seems natural progress to me. Being able to speak the language isn't really required until you are in the upper ranks, Brown and above. I have taken advantage to learn now. I've also studied French, Spanish, Italian, German, Loa and Sudanise (3 dialects out of the hundreds) French and Italian were classes Spaninsh and Loa was for my job as reporter since most of the community I use to live was Hispanic or South East Asian
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Huey, Because your instructor is Korean & you have had a lot of experience with languages, I'm sure correct pronounciation is very important to you. I commend you on making it a priority for yourself & your students. |
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IcemanSK wrote:
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Baby_Huey wrote:
It's not like my class was sitting their and were discussing the presidental race in Korean. But all the commands were in Korean and that was the whole class, warm-ups, forms, sparring. It was tricky with warm-ups because we do kick combos and misunderstood the side kick from reverse kick. My school's Grandmaster Woo Jin Jung is from Korea, his english is heavily accented and the black belt test is mostly in Korean. I think that hearing the language gives a window into the culture. The art has a history and I think the language is a part of that history. I have been taught the meaning behind all the forms I have to know in both ITF and WTF so the language part seems natural progress to me. Being able to speak the language isn't really required until you are in the upper ranks, Brown and above. I have taken advantage to learn now. I've also studied French, Spanish, Italian, German, Loa and Sudanise (3 dialects out of the hundreds) French and Italian were classes Spaninsh and Loa was for my job as reporter since most of the community I use to live was Hispanic or South East Asian
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Huey, Because your instructor is Korean & you have had a lot of experience with languages, I'm sure correct pronounciation is very important to you. I commend you on making it a priority for yourself & your students.
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Ditto to that too Baby_Huey ...man...I think you know more languages that half the worlds population! Anyways, I'm one of the students that want to learn more korean because I do appreciate how it provides a window for me into a different culture.
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